debra borchardt with us. now debra, the law will require companies of a certain size to pay if they don't offer their own employees health insurance. how real are the threats of job cuts, though, that we're hearing? >>. >> well, we're hearing lots of companies company out and say that they are laying off workers, that they will be cutting back workers' hours so they won't have to pay them health insurance because of the mandate. but it's interesting that it is coincidentally, of course, right after the election. and then when you start to look at some of the c.e.o.s of these companies also coincidentally they were romney supporters. so you had to start to drill a little bit deeper to find out what was behind all these changes. >> tom: we've got two here where we will set aside politics and look at business fundamentals. beginning with papa johns. pzza, its owner sbeen a veryocal oonent of health insurance reform. the stock has sold off along with the broad market although it rallied some today saying that it